{"id":1503,"date":"2013-12-14T09:07:55","date_gmt":"2013-12-14T13:07:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/?p=1503"},"modified":"2013-12-15T08:17:01","modified_gmt":"2013-12-15T12:17:01","slug":"a-fascinating-letter-from-an-economist-and-my-responses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/?p=1503","title":{"rendered":"A Fascinating letter from an economist, and my responses"},"content":{"rendered":"

I received this fascinating and long letter in response to a comment I made on this blog about debt, and my objecting to it. This fellow is a professional economist, so his words should count.\u00a0 His letter is in black typeface, my responses to him are in red.<\/p>\n

Chuck-<\/p>\n

I have admired your designs casually for many years, but following your blog
\nand reading your book recently, I encountered a closer parallel between our
\nlives and sentiments.\u00a0 Born in 1942, I, too, grew up (in New York) loving
\nboats.\u00a0 I drew them, sketched designs, visited boat shows, collected old
\nRudder and Yachting magazines, and assembled a large library of books on
\nhistory, design, building, cruising, and art that is still growing.\u00a0 As a
\nteen-ager, I even contemplated a career as a yacht designer, once visiting
\nHenry M. Devereux at Minneford’s.\u00a0 He gave me a piece of drafting vellum,
\nwhich I kept for many years and may have yet, though sunk in clutter.\u00a0 My
\nfather was persuaded to buy an old Hampton One-Design (sort of between a
\nComet and a Lightning) for my younger brother and me, and we sailed it out
\nof City Island for several years.\u00a0 There was never enough time for sailing,
\nbut the most important lack was time for maintenance and refinishing.<\/p>\n

Dear Peter,<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0What fun it was to get your long and erudite letter. You were an amateur yacht designer and a professional economist- I am that far more dangerous of breeds, an amateur economist and professional yacht designer. It is clear that we both love sailing, and we both share a concern when the intellectuals who guide our economy get it wrong, to the detriment of countless people around the world.<\/span><\/p>\n

For fun, let me try to refute or illuminate your many cogent points, and in a way that hopefully will not confuse my blog readers\u2019 understanding of which voice is yours and which mine. I\u2019ll do this by putting your original letter in black typeface, and my own responses in red.<\/span><\/p>\n

While you attended Brown, I went to Harvard, majoring in German literature.
\nParenthetically, I just re-read Thomas Mann’s “Der Zauberberg,” in which the
\nhero is a young man who loved drawing boats and trained as a naval
\narchitect!\u00a0 I did sail a bit with the Harvard Yacht Club and once met Olin
\nStephens.\u00a0 I still remember asking him whether there was a boat type that he
\nwould like to design without regard for a rating rule and his replying to
\nthe effect that he could not conceive of one.\u00a0 Having graduated in 1964 and
\nabandoned the idea of applying to medical school, I joined the Peace Corps
\n(India, 1966-67).\u00a0 On returning.\u00a0 I trained as an economist at Yale, where
\nJanet Yellen, who was a year behind you at Brown, was my classmate.\u00a0 After
\ngrad school, I crewed for a summer in the Shields class on Long Island Sound
\nbut found a job with the federal government in Washington, where I spent my
\ncareer, primarily in regulatory economics.\u00a0 I have been widely noted
\n(admired?) for the drawings of boats with which I stave off boredom in
\nmeetings.\u00a0 I did make etchings for a while and contemplate taking them up
\nagain, though I could certainly improve my technique.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\"CanoeYawl1a\"<\/a>\"Skiffa5\"<\/a>\"CanoeYawl2a\"<\/a><\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

\"Skiffb\"<\/a>\"Myfanwy3\"<\/a><\/p>\n

I found your sketches charming and artistic- indeed I wish I could recapture some of their naivete\u2019 in my own work, which tends too far towards precision and realism. The final one in particular- the one of the cutter- was lovely in the extreme. I wonder what was your medium\u2026 a combination of pencil with watercolor washes? \u00a0Its only failing, and it is extremely minor, is the slightly too high freeboard and incorrect placement of the mainsail battens. But the design of the clouds, values of the shoreline in the background, and drafting of the sail seams, and its general playfulness, could not be improved upon by anyone!<\/span><\/p>\n

As you know I graduated from Brown in 1966- two years after you left Harvard. Although I studied engineering, during my senior year I met and fell in love with a graduate student in economics\u2014her name was Frances Cairncross\u2014 I am sure you will have heard of her. It is she that my \u201cFrances 26\u201d was named after, and probably from her that I acquired my lifelong fascination with the dismal science.<\/span><\/p>\n

Like you I also served in the Peace Corps\u2014in Iran between 1969 and 1971, and got to India a few years later on a four-month overland backpacking tour with my then girlfriend- now my wife- in tow. It is sad to see how many countries which were once friendly to America and us to them\u2014Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan\u2014are no longer welcoming, and to ponder why this has come to pass. You can blame it on one man if you prefer- like you a Yale Grad but unlike you an idiot (GWB, if you were wondering), but his follies are being happily taken up by his entire reactionary party, and our national and just possibly the world\u2019s economy may well fail as a result.<\/span><\/p>\n

In 1972, my wife and I bought an O’Day Mariner 2+2 in Washington and cruised
\nit down the Potomac and up the bay to Annapolis.\u00a0 That model was the most
\nhandsome of the series-as you probably know, a Rhodes 19 hull with a
\nself-bailing cockpit and tiny cruising cabin with four (notional) berths.
\nThough it was fast, weatherly, and able, a centerboard sloop without a
\nsteady helm still raises problems for single-handing, so I was always
\ndependant on my wife to crew.\u00a0 We kept it in a slip and enjoyed it for
\nseveral years, but the travel and preparation time was about equal to the
\nsailing.\u00a0 Even with fiberglass, we were never able to dismiss thoughts of
\nmaintenance entirely, nor was the idea of trailering 1400 pounds simple
\nenough to widen our horizons.\u00a0 As they say, the second happiest day of a
\nsailor’s life…\u00a0 Facing retirement, I saw some advertisements for stunning
\nwooden cruising boats at modest prices and reached the painful conclusion
\nthat what I couldn’t afford was not the monetary cost but the complete
\nchange in lifestyle that owning a boat would demand of a city dweller.\u00a0 When
\nI dream now, the most attractive prospect is a decked sailing canoe,
\nsomething like Mik Storer’s Beth-garage storage to car top to water,
\nsingle-handed without a trailer or ramp.\u00a0 I may never reach that point,
\neither, but the stress of ambivalence is less.<\/p>\n

You have no need to own a sailboat! Simply come to Maine anytime in the summer and you can come sailing on mine. If you read my essay \u201cTHE FUTURE OF YACHT OWNERSHIP\u201d on my blog, you will see that one way we can save the earth is by learning to be content with the material possessions we already have, and sharing them. If we are to survive, we have to cease building more \u201cgoods\u201d (nothing good about them, actually), and sharing the extant ones more equitably.<\/span><\/p>\n

What prompted me to write, however, was not shared history or interests but
\nsomething you wrote on your blog recently: “Governments and Wall Street
\nexpanded the money supply through massive borrowing against the well-being
\nof future generations…The economy has recovered a bit since then thanks to
\nmassive money-printing, (our children will inevitably pay for this).”\u00a0\u00a0 I
\nhave learned that we share many values- concern for other peoples and future
\ngenerations and stewardship of the environment, besides a romantic
\naestheticism.\u00a0 We both regard with skepticism (perhaps disdain) the
\nself-serving pomposities of financiers and their adherents who idolize
\nmarkets.\u00a0 What you may not realize is how antithetical your words are to
\nyour own values and how strongly they reflect the prejudices of the right.<\/p>\n

I am, though, far from right (politically, that is). I am a liberal and proud to call myself one! But when it comes to issues of sustainability, perhaps you are correct. I believe one generation (ours) has no right to live well at the expense of future generations. If this means Recession, or Austerity, or avoiding borrowing, then so be it. Homo Sapiens has stood erect upon this earth for 1000 generations. We have (we Northern Hemisphere Americans and Europeans), in the past four or five generations, extracted from the finite crust of our host planet a vast proportion of its remaining store of minerals such that the only argument, at present rates of consumption, (and once the Chinese and Indians begin to make their claim, that rate will ramp up exponentially) is whether we will have extracted it all within the next five at least, or ten at the most, generations! Is this fair to the remaining potentially 990 generations who will thereby live in abject penury or more likely not live at all? We\u2014well actually YOU (economists)\u2015have a duty to find a way to permit another 1000 generations to enjoy life on this planet. By espousing Capitalism, free markets, and Keynesian economics, I fear you are neglecting this duty!<\/span>
\nEven when he thinks he is espousing the liberal cause, President Obama has
\nargued the need for economizing to protect our children and is only now (one
\nhopes) being weaned from a perverted model.<\/p>\n

Obama is a great man, and a thinker. For which he is hated by some. I hope he will devote the remainder of his term to pulling the wool off our eyes and addressing the failings of Capitalism and the Free Market before it is too late.<\/span><\/p>\n

What do I mean with this \u201ctoo late\u201d warning?\u00a0 Countless small countries in Africa and Latin America have progressed to the point where a few highly placed individuals possessed essentially all their nations\u2019 wealth while the remainder of the population lived in abject poverty. And two great European empires reached the same disparity of wealth- France in 1789 and Russia in 1917. We too are dangerously close to this level at present and moving inexorably toward the tipping point. The result is invariably the same- violent revolution. If you think our unemployed masses or our marginally employed workers whose \u201cminimum wage\u201d is incapable of supporting them and their families at anything approaching the poverty level- are content with the present state of things, well, \u201cLet them eat cake!\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

If you, like Polonius, were offering advice to your son, you would be wise
\nto discourage him from frittering away his savings on unnecessary luxuries,
\nleaving himself and his children impoverished.\u00a0 Prudent saving and
\ninvestment would allow him to accumulate claims on the product of others,
\nwho would support his family in comfort.\u00a0<\/p>\n

It is because of our shared values (concern for other peoples and future generations and stewardship of the environment, plus a romantic aestheticism) that I have come to abhor inflation and its bedmate, debt.\u00a0It is for this reason that I wrote the words \u201cThe economy has recovered a bit since then thanks to massive money-printing, (our children will inevitably pay for this).”\u00a0\u00a0And I have indeed, like Polonius, discouraged my son from frittering away his savings on unnecessary luxuries.\u00a0(For the benefit of my non- Shakespeare readers, Polonius\u2019 advice to his son was, \u201cNeither a borrower nor a lender be\u201d).<\/span><\/p>\n

There are two flaws with this prescription when applied to a nation’s economy.\u00a0 The first is the “fallacy of composition.”\u00a0 One man’s consumption is another’s income, so it is
\nimpossible for a society to enrich itself by spending less.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Begging the question, should<\/span> society\u2019s job be to enrich itself?<\/i>\u00a0 A question no present economist will ever utter. My answer is, no. The level of self-enrichment that America (and the rest of the Western World) went through before 2008 threatened to incinerate the earth, or at least to extract the remainder of its finite resources within the span of the next few generations- and then what?<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0What economists should be asking is, \u201cWhat level of enrichment is SUSTAINABLE?\u201d And at that level of consumption, how do we distribute the associated level of goods and services so that every person on earth can survive and enjoy life? Capitalism- the economists\u2019 present darling- eponymously rewards capital, with the result that the rewards go to the owners of that capital, leaving non- capital owners impoverished. At the resultant rate of rapid wealth redistribution, a few families will live in opulent splendor and the remaining 99% of the population will starve to death. Yet, sir, has even one of your fellow Harvard professors ever questioned the idea of a new \u201cism\u201d to replace Capitalism?<\/span><\/p>\n

My idea of that \u201cism\u201d might be named Conservism, though that sounds suspiciously like \u201cConservatism\u201d which it is, actually, diametrically opposed to.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0If everyone tries too hard to save, each will find himself losing wages or sales, and
\nthe process will continue until growing poverty discourages saving.\u00a0<\/p>\n

If a farmer did not \u201csave\u201d, at least a few seeds from each crop, but consumed everything, then the next year he would starve. Saving is a necessity that permits life to go on. If he not only consumed all this year\u2019s seeds, but the next year\u2019s and the next, (long term debt) he would starve that much sooner. This is what we will do by trying to solve the pre- 2008 mistake of incurring too much debt- both public and private- by massively increasing debt! You don\u2019t put out a fire by adding more fire.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0Claims against others are meaningless, when what counts is aggregate productivity.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m all for aggregate productivity, as long as it is sustainable. If productivity means mining irreplaceable resources, then it can last just so long. If it means producing capital (think wind-turbines) that can be productive forever without harming future generations, then \u201cbring it on!\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

The second flaw is assuming that spending less on one thing automatically
\nfrees resources that will be employed elsewhere, possibly on something more
\ndesirable.\u00a0 What recessions prove is that unemployment is not a transitory
\nphenomenon, that new demand does not appear magically to offset the collapse
\nof a market sector.\u00a0<\/p>\n

I totally agree! The \u201cGreat Recession\u201d is at least partially the result of a failure of aggregate demand. (Am I right?) But printing more money (oops! Let\u2019s call it QE) has had until this point little to no beneficial effect upon aggregate demand and therefore employment. A good metaphor this time is that it\u2019s like pushing on a rope. If there\u2019s nobody pulling, there\u2019s no effect. You see, the populace is ahead of the economists. We all KNOW that we cannot continue to consume- that this would be a worldwide end-game. So no matter how much money you print (sic), we ain\u2019t buying. Offer us Infrastructure, sustainable energy production, efficient provision of health care, removing subsidies to inefficient production, and throw in aid to the starveling nations of the Southern Hemisphere, and we\u2019ll buy.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0But the unemployment problem this go-round is more than simply a lack of aggregate demand. An essential consequence of Capitalism is that massive intellectual effort has been devoted for generations to replacing workers with machines or rather, labor with capital. Although plenty of \u201cwork\u201d has been provided to the designers and manufacturers of the ATMs that have replaced bank tellers, Self-Checkout machines that will replace cashiers, People-movers that require no conductors, and on and on and on, (they\u2019re working on airplanes that will take off and land themselves!) the result of this aspect of Capitalism will ultimately be a world of robots, computers and machines, and no need for human work. Of course this is entirely sustainable and stable if the rewards that derive from this Capital were equitably distributed in such a way that every human received a sufficient share of the reward (profit) to sustain himself and his family. But Capitalism as presently contrived distributes these rewards only to a minute fraction of the world\u2019s population, and the ones who need it least- the wealthy. This is clearly unsustainable and unstable.<\/span><\/p>\n

Although “money printing” is a misleading term for the Federal Reserve’s policy, (my bad, I meant QE- Chuck)<\/span> what it is trying to do is to reverse the wholly destructive effects of reductions in federal, state, and local spending by lowering the cost of private borrowing to spend and invest.\u00a0 (All laudable in my view.)<\/span> Unfortunately, this monetary policy is a crude mechanism that has been able to stave off disaster (Congrats, President O. and Mr. Bernanke!)<\/span> but has not compensated for the long-term waste of unemployed labor, industrial capacity, and other resources caused by cuts in both private and public spending.\u00a0No, we agree, it has not. And it won\u2019t. Only by moving the ownership of capital somehow from private to public hands thereby disbursing its rewards equitably, and increasing investment in sustainable means of production (Infrastructure, sustainable energy production, efficient provision of health care, removing subsidies to inefficient production etc.) will we stave off ultimate disaster.<\/span><\/p>\n

When we talk of saving to improve the welfare of our children, we are not
\nreferring to a survivalist’s investment in canned food, nor will money,
\nstocks, and bonds do more than apportion claims under a system of law and
\ntaxation that may be altered to reassign them later.\u00a0 Material benefits will
\nbe derived from investment in roads, transit, power grids,
\ntelecommunications, buildings, factories, and other durable infrastructure.<\/p>\n

Here we absolutely and totally agree! And what is our government doing? Cutting all of these investments!<\/span><\/p>\n

Protection of the environment, whether included in these investments or in
\nseparate programs, will be a cost that should be shared fairly,
\nindependently of market outcomes.\u00a0 So true! In each case, a strong argument can be<\/span><\/span>
\nmade that only government has the necessary information, power, financial<\/span>
\nresources, and long-term perspective.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span> When will half of our voters begin to understand this?)<\/span><\/p>\n

Even if these qualities are not always apparent, there is less evidence for the often-asserted superiority of private judgments.\u00a0 Public investments, however, though the most valuable and necessary in the long run, are just those that have been severely cut by misguided policies.\u00a0 Even more important for future welfare is human
\ncapital, including everything from universal health maintenance to
\nlibraries, schools, and mass education to museums, cultural institutions,
\ntraining and research at the highest levels.\u00a0 Again, market outcomes will
\nnever provide enough of these; only collective decisions and public spending
\nwill do.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve lived in Europe long enough to know the truth of this. It\u2019s called Socialism, and it works exceedingly well! The fact that it\u2019s a dirty word over here may spell our competitive demise.<\/span><\/p>\n

Whether such public spending should be supported by (higher) taxes,
\nbalancing the government’s budget, is an empirical, not a moral, question.<\/p>\n

It should, because the only alternative is debt- a euphemism for my eating the cheeseburger and giving the bill to my grandson.<\/span><\/p>\n

To the extent that full employment and personal freedom necessitate
\nmaintaining a certain private ability to consume, the rates and forms of
\ntaxes may be limited, but beyond that, government’s command of resources is
\nconstrained only by the labor and material not otherwise employed.\u00a0 The
\ndecision, whether to finance any desired level of government spending by
\nconfiscating private wealth through taxes or by borrowing, maintaining
\nprivate wealth (in the form of Treasury bonds) intact is a purely technical
\nquestion that should be evaluated by its ability to keep the economy
\nfunctioning efficiently.\u00a0 There is nothing about governmental borrowing that
\nis immoral, dangerous, wasteful, or improvident.\u00a0 It is if it causes inflation!<\/span> The argument that a country running large deficits or expanding the money supply risks high
\ninterest costs or runaway inflation has been dramatically contradicted by
\nall recent evidence.\u00a0<\/p>\n

ALL? Only once in history has there not been a direct correlation between running large deficits and inflation, and that is in the current Great Recession. And that is because of the pushing on a rope phenomenon, which has emerged for the first time in economic history. In remembering all that I\u2019ve seen of recessions and booms throughout my life, each time a recession came along I said, \u201cThis time it\u2019s different.\u201d And every time I said this, I was wrong. Keynesian economics always worked (If you print it, they will spend). But let me humbly suggest, because we are transitioning from a time when the endgame of depleted resources loomed so far over the horizon as to be invisible, to a time when Everyman knows he\u2019s gotta stop consuming or the game is over, that\u2026This Time It Is Different!<\/span><\/p>\n

That the wealthy love tight money policies which harm
\ntheir poorer debtors is, itself, a reason to regard them with suspicion.
\nUnemployment, poor health and education, worn-out capital, and a degraded
\nenvironment are the only legacies we can leave that will burden our
\nchildren.\u00a0 Massive borrowing is not against the well-being of future
\ngenerations: under present conditions, it may be their only salvation.<\/p>\n

There has got to be a better way. And this time, it won\u2019t work! It simply pushes harder on that rope.<\/span><\/p>\n

Well, enough of my tirade.\u00a0(Actually I can\u2019t get enough of it)<\/span> \u00a0I enjoy enormously what you write, and I believe we look at boats in similar ways.\u00a0 They are objects of beauty that we want
\nto possess, and they afford a unique experience and training that can become
\na lifetime’s avocation.\u00a0 At the same time, it is easy to be tempted by the
\nfantasy into unrealistic decisions-either because one can’t afford the
\nmonetary cost or because making room in one’s life for sailing may displace
\ntoo many other pleasures and obligations.\u00a0 I agree that the future is likely
\nto call forth opportunities for new forms of boat sharing that permit more
\nintensive use, though most will unfortunately represent the lowest common
\ndenominator of mass appeal.\u00a0\u00a0 Perhaps institutions like the Center for
\nWooden Boats in Seattle (where I once sailed a Beetle Cat and a Herreshoff
\n12 \u00bd) could be expanded and diversified.\u00a0 \u201cSail Newport\u201d which is a boat-sharing enterprise in Newport RI is prospering- there will be many others)<\/span> You have had an amazingly successful career, doing what you love and doing it so well that you have
\nboth supported yourself and brought joy to others, even those who only read
\nan occasional article or admire a set of plans.\u00a0 I do hope that what I have
\nwritten will prompt you to reconsider some of your interpretations of the
\nstate of our society.\u00a0 There are many economists who can explain these
\nissues with much greater competence than mine and, unfortunately, many
\nhighly respected ones who are venal or perversely ignorant.<\/p>\n

Best Regards,<\/p>\n

Peter Belenky<\/p>\n

Summoning up what little I retained from Economics 101 plus a lifetime of reading has been fun for me. As will be reading your reactions to my layman\u2019s view of what we\u2019re going through right now. Remembering always that it was GWB\u2019s ideological cretinism that got us into this mess in the first place, I sincerely hope that this latest multi-trillion dollar dose of Keynesian economics actually saves the sinking ship. But I fear, This Time It\u2019s Different.\u00a0 -Chuck<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I received this fascinating and long letter in response to a comment I made on this blog about debt, and my objecting to it. This fellow is a professional economist, so his words should count.\u00a0 His letter is in black typeface, my responses to him are in red. Chuck- I have admired your designs casually […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1503","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economics","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1503","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1503"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1503\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1515,"href":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1503\/revisions\/1515"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1503"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1503"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chuckpaine.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1503"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}